8s & 7s checker
Shape a four-line draft against 8 · 7 · 8 · 7 trochaic hymn meter. Same syllable and stress engine as the lyriic poetry editor — private in your browser.
Adjust syllables and stress until each line lands.
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lyriic models classic trochaic 8s & 7s: eight-syllable lines with strong beats on odd positions, alternating with seven-syllable catalectic lines that end on a stress. Hymnals also index a rarer iambic 8.7.8.7 — that contour is a different meter and is not what this checker targets.
A short history
In English hymnals, meter is written as syllable counts per line — 8.7.8.7 (or “8s & 7s”) means a quatrain of eight, seven, eight, and seven syllables. The same numbers appear as 8.7.8.7.D when the pattern doubles to eight lines, a common shape for longer hymn texts.
Most classic 8s & 7s hymns are trochaic: a falling DUM-da beat, with the seven-syllable lines catalectic (they drop the final weak syllable and end on a stress). Hymnal indexes also list a rarer iambic 8.7.8.7; those texts do not share tunes with the trochaic set, because the stress contour has to match the music.
The form became a staple of eighteenth- and nineteenth-century English hymnody precisely because tune and text could be swapped whenever syllable count and poetic foot agreed — the metrical index is the practical tool for that interchange.
Famous poems
Come, Thou Fount of Every Blessing — Robert Robinson
Come, thou Fount of every blessing, / tune my heart to sing thy grace; / streams of mercy, never ceasing, / call for songs of loudest praise.
Often indexed as 8.7.8.7.D; the opening quatrain is a clean trochaic 8 · 7 · 8 · 7 teaching sample.
What a Friend We Have in Jesus — Joseph Medlicott Scriven
What a friend we have in Jesus, / all our sins and griefs to bear!
Standard 8.7.8.7.D text, usually sung to CONVERSE; opening lines show the falling trochaic pulse.
Love Divine, All Loves Excelling — Charles Wesley
Love divine, all loves excelling, / joy of heaven, to earth come down;
Widely printed as 8.7.8.7.D; another staple of the trochaic eights-and-sevens family.
All for Jesus — Mary Dagworthy James
All for Jesus! All for Jesus! / All my being’s ransomed powers;
Cited in hymnal pedagogy as a clear 8.7.8.7 trochaic example (odd-syllable stresses).
How 8s & 7s works
8s & 7s (hymnal 8.7.8.7) cycles eight- and seven-syllable lines. In the classic trochaic form lyriic models, long lines are four full trochees (DUM-da × 4); short lines are catalectic — they truncate after a final strong beat so the line ends on stress.
A four-line stanza therefore reads 8 · 7 · 8 · 7. Hymnals mark 8.7.8.7.D when that quatrain doubles to eight lines; the syllable-and-stress cycle is the same, only longer. Rhyme and tune choice are outside the checker.
When stress-aware checking is on, lyriic compares dictionary stress to the expected falling contour on each line length. Iambic 8.7.8.7 texts exist in some indexes but use a different beat and are not this meter’s target.
Trochee (DUM-da)
A trochee is a two-syllable foot with a strong beat then a light one: DUM-da. Words like “garden,” “poetry,” and “falling” often open on that falling rhythm.
Repeated trochees make trochaic meter—tetrameter (eight syllables) is common in song and children’s verse; longer lines appear in hymns and narrative. English poets often drop or lighten a final weak syllable, so lines may feel truncated compared with a pure foot grid.
With the stress pack loaded, lyriic marks expected strong–weak beats from dictionary stress against that trochaic contour, so you can see where the line matches or drifts.
Trochaic stress pattern (8 / 7)
Classic 8s & 7s hymn meter is trochaic: an eight-syllable line (strong on odd positions 1–7) alternating with a seven-syllable line that truncates after a final strong beat (1, 3, 5, 7). Odd lines end strong; the short line is catalectic.
lyriic checks that 8 / 7 trochaic contour when the stress pack is loaded, filling then truncating the foot grid to each line length.
Notes on this form
lyriic does not enforce rhyme schemes, doubled (D) eight-line stanzas, or tune interchange rules from a hymnal’s metrical index.
Common questions
- What is 8s & 7s hymn meter?
- In hymnal notation, 8.7.8.7 (8s & 7s) is a four-line stanza with eight, seven, eight, and seven syllables. The classic English form is trochaic — a falling DUM-da beat — with the short lines ending on a strong syllable. A trailing D means the pattern doubles to eight lines.
- Does lyriic check stress as well as syllables?
- Yes. For 8s & 7s, lyriic targets the 8 / 7 syllable cycle and the trochaic stress contour when the stress pack is loaded. Open the zen editor with this meter for live rulers beside each line.
- Is my draft uploaded?
- No. Syllable and stress checks run locally in your browser. lyriic is local-first and does not require an account.